Friday, May 3, 2013

Report: Vince Lombardi willingly accepted gay players on his team


Speculation has run rampant lately about how a gay NFL player would be received by teammates and coaches. The announcement made by NBA veteran Jason Collins has further fueled the ongoing debate. Some have offered words of support while others have condemned Collins for publicly revealing he is gay.

One man who apparently would have been okay with having a gay player on his team was former Green Bay Packers coach Vince Lombardi. In fact, the legendary coach reportedly knowingly and willingly embraced gay players during a time in which the topic was even more controversial than it is today.
My father was way ahead of his time,” Susan Lombardi said. “He was discriminated against as a dark-skinned Italian American when he was younger, when he felt he was passed up for coaching jobs that he deserved. He felt the pain of discrimination, and so he raised his family to accept everybody, no matter what color they were or whatever their sexual orientation was. I think it’s great what Jason Collins did, because it’s going to open a lot of doors for people. Without a doubt my father would’ve embraced him, and would’ve been very proud of him for coming out.”
Not only did Lombardi accept gay players on his team, but he also went above and beyond to ensure nobody else on the team messed with them. According to an excerpt from the Lombardi biography When Pride Still Mattered, author David Maraniss wrote that the late coach once told one of his assistants to work with a running back named Ray McDonald, who was previously arrested for having intercourse with another man in public, to help him make the team. Lombardi added, "And if I hear one of you people make reference to his manhood, you'll be out of here before your ass hits the ground."

One thing important to note here is that Lombardi's brother Harold was gay. Harold Lombardi passed away in 2011 and left behind a surviving partner of 41 years. Vince Lombardi passed away in 1970 with knowledge of his brother's relationship with another man.

So, if Lombardi and his players could embrace gay peers by adhering to the conservative standards of the 1960s, it isn't far-fetched to believe the same can be done in the 2010s.

Via Pro Football Talk

26 comments:

  1. So a man having sex with another man in public is acceptable behavior?

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    1. My question, exactly

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  2. For the record...Ray McDonald was picked up in East Potomac park with a young boy, not a man!!

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  3. When is skanky & illegal public behavior acceptable?

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  4. Well, I guess that settles it. Lombardie supported gays.

    Why is the media hell-bent on forcing public acceptance of homosexuality in any form? I believe I stand for the majority in this matter. Homosexuality is wrong. Lombardie's endorcement does not make it right. What God codemns, men seem to applaud.

    Can we even utter "God Bless America" any more and expect blessing?

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    1. I'm going to forgo a full response to your insanely ignorant remarks and just focus on your statement that "I believe I stand for the majority in this matter". Seriously?? The majority of people in this country, whether you like it or not, or whether you think it is a sin or not, are accepting of homosexuals, male or female. The statistics are out there plain to see, you certainly do not stand for the majority. Now, if you want to say "I believe I stand for the majority of conservative Christians", then that is probably true.

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    2. Frank Goss is probably more right than you, Tommy Girl. Accepting homosexuality is being forced upon us by gutless political "leaders" and gays and lesbians who seem to think their wants and needs of thousands like them is far more important than those of the millions of non-LGBTs who never feel the need to shout their lifestyles from the rooftops and media.

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    3. Interesting that you call Thomas, Tommy Girl, and refer to everyone as "Gutless" while listed as anonymous. If you are going to be that tough and abusive, sign up for whatever social media it takes to be able to post with your actual name.

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  5. I dont think thats what this article says at all. Having read the book and doing my own research. The key element is that Lombardi, as we all should follow his example, accepted this player as a human being with ability. Having sex in public is wrong with a man or woman so what does that matter. The issue is that this person despite their sexuality has a right to pursue his life of happiness as we all are. I for one do not approve of the lifestyle but that has no bearing on what I think of the person as a human being. They are a human being and deserve the same rights as all of us. Don't trivialize the argument because Lombardi was fighting against all forms of discrimination

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  6. I dont think thats what this article says at all. Having read the book and doing my own research. The key element is that Lombardi, as we all should follow his example, accepted this player as a human being with ability. Having sex in public is wrong with a man or woman so what does that matter. The issue is that this person despite their sexuality has a right to pursue his life of happiness as we all are. I for one do not approve of the lifestyle but that has no bearing on what I think of the person as a human being. They are a human being and deserve the same rights as all of us. Don't trivialize the argument because Lombardi was fighting against all forms of discrimination

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  7. As I was discussing with my associates yesterday, What legacy does a homosexual pass along? Does Lombardi's brother have children? Who has the baby? How does the homosexual pass his name? In the end run(no pun intended) How does one perpetuate his species doing something that he was not designed to do?
    It appears to be self-discrimination as well as a crime against another in private or public.

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  8. I keep thinking about the players in the shower after a game or practice. Just imagine if you are a straight male taking a shower with many beautiful, athletic, women, who are stark naked, a couple feet from you...........Come on how could you not get excited and stare at all that T and A???? So a gay man showering with other men will get excited sexually looking at his teammates. I know I would feel very uncomfortable taking a shower with a homo!!!!!!

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  9. I'm sure there have always been gays in sports, What I don't understand is Why do they want to stand public and say I'm gay, Straight sports figure don"t make a big deal to stand in public and say I'm straight. I don't care what your sexual prefrence is, I don't want or need to know. What I do want to know is Can you play ball ( no pun intended ). Now if your gay on my team somebody is going to find a new shower me or you one. I guess gays have rights, but hey I have rights too. Gays say they want equal rights they already have equal rights the same has any American, what they want are special rights.

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  10. Accepting a gay player and promoting a gay lifestyle are completely different things so don't try to equate the two. If you want to know what Lombardi would think about all this you might want to know what he believed. Vince Lombardi was a strong Catholic who attended (and often served) daily Mass. That might give us a clue. More likely he would have accepted the sinner while condemming the sin.

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  11. Hey Shawn Smith, guess what? Gays don't have equal rights yet. And just because you don't like their lifestyle, it doesn't mean that they're not entitled to live their lives honestly. Stop trying to keep them down just because you don't like it. I'm sure there's a lot about your lifestyle that gays don't like either. Don't be so bigoted. You all sound like a bunch of homophobes. Gay people exist - get over it already. Grow up.

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    1. Didn't say I did or did not like them just saying why would gay people want to stand and say I'm gay? Straight people don't do this, if gays want to be equal Then shut up and sit down. We don't care if your gay or straight, CAN YOU PLAY BALL!!!!
      Plus just because I don't want to be in the same shower with a gay man doesn't mean I don't like him, Now lets see gay people have the same rights right now that all americans have, if they are americans. Sounds Equal to me.
      I also see that if you back the gay way and are so proud of them or to be one of them why do you put your name on here as ANONYMOUS don't sound to me like you to proud, or maybe your just trying to hide something :) LOL...... Have a Good Day

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  12. Once upon a time, we didn't really think it was our business to make public comments about other people's sex lives. Just as it was once common to acknowledge that adult behavior never involved the blatant "looking over" of anyone, same sex or opposite sex, in a group shower or on the street. I believe it was called civility.

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  13. How did Lombardi get involved in this? Way to much face time for something as minor as this whole story. But now we are dragging people that are gone into it. WOW ! Next week John Wayne will be responding with his thoughts on the matter.

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  14. I am always amazed at the ignorance of those who interpret the bible in ways that twist it's words to fit their small minded meaning. The same tactic used by the KKK and Hitler and other hate mongerers. I am not gay but most of the people I know do support gay rights as god given gifts. If they are so sure God did not wish there to be gays then why does God allow them to be born as such. As any intelligent human being now recognizes it is not a choice, it is a matter of birth. We might as well say that people born blond should be condemned for not having been born with another color of hair. If we are ever to find peace in this universe then the first step is accepting that all people are born different and accept them for what they are. There is a major difference between being a child molestor, rapist, or murderer and being born with a different set of genese than another.

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    1. The WORD of the LORD speaks plain no homosexuals will enter the kingdom, It dosen't say blonds won't make it. BORN THAT WAY? Please man, the devil has got you fooled, even if you don't want to belive it, being gay is a choice. Thats like saying I'm a smoker, I was born that way. It is a choice. For GOD to let anyone be born gay that would make HIM a liear. Now if you want to call GOD a liear thats up to you, but you will stand infront of HIM one day. Sodom & Gomorrah, Mem wanted Men, Womem wanted Women, GOD gave them at least 100 years to repent they still wouldn't go for it, GOD destroys the whole place and people. Yeah GOD likes gays and lets them be born that way. Homosexuality is a sin and of the devil and it is a choice. I just hope you and you friends figure out your being fooled big time by the devil befor judgement day. Praying for you & your buddies, Have a Good Day

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    2. Your an ass! People are not born this way, it is a choice they make. Some may be born with the tendency to have same sex attraction, but to embrace that is their choice. The bible is very clear on that, if you don't believe me read it! Does that mean we should condemn gay people as less then human? No! But I will not accept that it is natural and right. According to your reasoning child molesters should not be punished for their crimes because how do we know they were not "born that way."

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  15. Please remember Faith is not Fact. God's word is something you choose to embrace, and I totally respect that. Please respect that not everyone chooses that lifestyle of Faith. If God will shun those who don't follow his word, so be it. Those of us who prefer to use our own common sense and sense of decency will take that chance.
    We don't have to agree with homosexuality, or even understand it in the least. We just need to acknowledge it as an individuals right to choice

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  16. Also the spoke of Hollywood, where Hollywood writers seemed to put a gay person on every single sit-com and at least one scene or character in every single movie - stating that wasn't right because there just are not that many gay citizens in our country by proportion. Then they spoke of the ""gay agenda" in our politics in Washington DC, in our entertainment manufacturing, at our college campuses, and claiming that the GLBT crowd was preying on adolescents who are going through their own hormonal awakenings, thus, in a way brainwashing them as they are confused about the changes in their own bodies.

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  17. President Obama is firmly committed to the homosexual agenda and recent promises made to the LBGT and others have caused some in the conservative movement and the evangelical and Pentecostal churches to shudder. It is also clear that the church's concerns have little bearing on the President's position to throw the doors open for the "gay agenda by closing the steel doors around those who make so much as a whimper against the gays. Signing the untested and highly suspect Matthew Shepard act is the latest evidence of that.

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